Villiers Sloper A15 (Not Electronic Ignition)

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Villiers Sloper A15 (Not Electronic Ignition)

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Is there such a thing as an A15 Manual, without Electronic ignition? Or does this make it another engine altogether

Stamp on engine says A15-02-03, but the manual on this site is for the Electronic Ignition version which would make the stamp A15-02-03E, from what I have read.

I'd like to get a parts list for the engine I have but struggling to find one.

Thanks

Rob

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That’s interesting as I

That’s interesting as I thought that all the A15s had electronic ignition. What carburettor has yours got? I’m just working on a Ransomes  Auto Certes  with an A10 and that is electronic .  I’ve not been able to find a parts list or repair manual specific to the A 10 and even my NGK spark plug application booklet does not mention either.

The person who will know is Paul Child of Meetens but when I spoke to him to order some parts on Monday he was sounding very busy and it was not the time to engage him in conversation.

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The only reason that it

The only reason that it prompted the question is that I ordered the Electronic Ignition unit (part 41401) replacement from George at Villiers Parts, but it does not fit. Looks like a different Flywheel is also required.

I've asked George to comment on my supposed mistake in my order. The part I replaced appeared to have a points setup, which I was hoping to get away from by installing the, what I thought, original electronic unit.

The first page of the manual (electronic ignition version) states "This handbook relates to engines with engine numbers above 3202. These engines incorporate electronic ignition and have a specification ending in "E" i.e. A15-03-02E. For engines without this suffix refer to previous handbook which will have a cover which does not mention electronic ignition"

It was that last sentence that I only just spotted.

I have the B10 carb, which is why I originally thought this was the correct manual. Everything else looks right for this manual.

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Not sure whether helps but I

0Not sure whether helps but I attach a Dropbox link to a leaflet for the A14 Super Sloper. In the spec it says flywheel magneto but does not specify electronic. It is shown with the Villiers Junior Slide Carburettor and still has the "clack" valve crank case breather.

The A10 ** that I have on the bench at present has the B10 carb and recirculating crank case breather.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3n7hs5jsl08frsj/Villiers%20A15%20Super%20Slope...

I will need to check, but I believe that the flywheels on the "electronic" engines have a small groove machined around their outer circumference - presumably for easy identification.

** EDIT, CORRECTION.

What I thought was an A10 is in fact  anA15. It has an electronic ignition sticker, a B10 carb and a recirculating crankcase breather. 

I’ve just acquired another A 15 but that has points ignition and the F12 type clack valve open crankcase breather but also a B10 carb.

A year ago I worked on a Sloper with electronic ignition and a Dellorto carburettor  but I didn’t look at the model number. I think that I’m right in thinking that forum contributor Chris G has a Dellorto equipped Sloper . Perhaps he can enlighten us as to the model number and ignition type.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yes, mine has the grove, but

Yes, mine has the groove, but no obvious place for separate Magneto Assembly (Part No 32824). The flywheel I have suggests a points setup too, with the inspection cover.

The diagram in the manual isn't clear enough to see what the magneto looks like, just a pointer and a part number.

George at VilliersParts will sort out my electronic ignition. I'll post a picture when I get it back.

 

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I haven't seen many A15

I haven't seen many A15 engines, but I have seen ones with points ignition and ones with electronic ignition. It is my understanding that the A15 was a development of the F12 and that the early ones used points and a Villiers carb (B10 ?) and they soon went to electronic ignition and a Villiers slide carb.

This is all from memory, so I could be talking out of my hat smiley